San Franciso's z17 has a serious lack of warm weather..not people weather friendly. BUT,the almost total lack of frost (even in '07 Ab. banana's were evergreen in Golden Gate Park,Brugs stayed in bloom-in my part of the eastbay's z17,20 miles east, my Brugs were frosted back to the framework of the branches)..creates some fantasticaly perfect looking subtropicals. Many have that soucal look of never ever having to recover from cold. And plants that i thought were too tender for the bay area-like Coffee,can grow in protected outdoor areas..same for those tender neoregalia's. Plants si,people weather? not so good-lol.
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