[thistlesifter]

Point is...Will the real Doran Black stand up...

Brandon, The initiator for this thread ask a question...and the answer is not so straightforward as it would seem though Rosemarie made a true statement, there are two ways to interpret it. The plant may be miss-labeled by misspellings or by not being a real Doran Black and being labeled as such. It is possible that the plant Brandon is referring to is not Doran Black. Dorian Blacks sold for some time by Grigsby's is not like the Doran Blacks I got from Dick Wright.

I am sure that botanical terminology and nomenclature would be correct coming from Tim and Kelly. My statement about man-made species was not botanically correct. I didn't help the person who is trying to clarify a confusion. My point is that his question cannot be so easily dismissed as a simple spelling error.

I called Mad Lee and asked her the question a couple of years ago. She stated straight out that it was just a miss-spell (typo-caused) on her tag. Months after that I was at the nursery and noticed those plants were still miss-labeled as Dorian Black. There are Grigsby customers all over the country that have these. These are not Doran Blacks (if they are different taxa) by the rationale discussed by Tim. This question has come up in at least 3 major forums.

I've compared several different 'Doran Blacks'.These were trivial comparisons. but the differences are quite noticeable..so I've kept Mad Lee's 'Dorian Black' plants labeled with their own number code because it is a better looking and acting plant than the ones I've gotten from other sources. I like it better than the ones I got from Dick Wright and for a long while I used the 'Dorian Black' exclusively and kept several around so I could have it for use as DB pollen.

Arid Lands had a plant labeled 'Doran Black' several years ago that is quite a bit different than any other so-called 'Doran Black'. It doesn't offset and has so far proved impervious to Aloe Mite. I quit using DB for breeding, but I will one day use Arid Lands plant.

Bob