Agave ID

[BeansNoMore]

This week Ive been putting plant markers on many of my garden plants and am now down to the unknown or unsure plants. Ive looked through the Gentry and the Irish book's and have concluded that this is A. lophantha. How did I go?

I have few of these posts. Allen I hope you don't impose a max no of ID posts that a user can post in a year!









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[BeansNoMore]

And I think that this is A. xylonacantha

[BeansNoMore]

...and this to be A. zebra, havardiana, chrysantha or avellanidens.



Your thoughts please?

[GermanStar]

Agree on A xyonacantha. Look at the teeth on that thing!

[BeansNoMore]

Thanks GermanStar. 10/10 so far for me. Maybe once we have IDed the agaves, maybe we can work on IDing the weeds as well.

[Tim Harvey]

Presumably you both mean Agave xylonacantha?

I hate to see mis-spelled names going uncorrected

T

[BeansNoMore]

Yes Tim we do. Ive just checked my garden label and at least I spelt that correctly.

[GermanStar]

So did I (now that I went back and edited my post).

[agavegreg]

The first one does not look like A. lophantha to me. Maybe A. horrida ssp. perotensis (=A. obscura in Gentry).

The next looks like A. xylonacantha.

The last is none of the ones you narrowed it down to. Looks more like A. salmiana var. ferox to me.

[BeansNoMore]

Thanks Greg. I will look up your suggestions in my books tonight when I get home and compare the descriptions to the plants. Without mature plants readily available in this part of Australia to compare to, it difficult enough to name plants in your possession from books alone, without the extra complication of hybrids.

[BeansNoMore]

I have just looked A. salmiana var. ferox up on the net. It seems to grow to a person height and width - at least. Thats pretty large - yet remains a very very cool plant. I best move it though whilst I can.

[wantonamara]

I was googling Ag. horrida Var protensis And came up with this page, since I don't really want to go to work today. The pictures show the diversity in one population concerning length and number of teeth. Ahh. , to be long in the tooth or toothless....There I learned something today.

http://www.agaves.nl/fieldtrips/Mexi...6/EN_Dag_5.htm

[braveone2u]

The first looks similar to A. ghiesbreghtii, but I wouldn't discount a lophantha/parryi hybrid.

The second one looks like my lophantha, but several people have called it a xylonacantha as well. Here's a link to a music video I did with the mentioned plant included: YouTube - LEGENDARY PINK DOTS vs. AGAVES (the ouch! collection video)

The third is probably Agave "Mr. Ripple."

Good luck.

[Walker]

I agree with the A. ghiesbreghtii suggestion about the first one.

The second is definitely a form of xylonacantha.

I'm not familiar with the third.

Cheers

[agavemonger]

Hey there, Beans!

#1) Looks like an A. Ghiesbreghtii variant. The leaves aren't wide enough, though! So I would think that it is a variant something in this highly variable complex! (This includes A. lophantha, A. triangularis, and A. horrida ssp. perotensis, among others). After reading Gentry closely, I thought Greg's guess might be right; this one's teeth most closely align with A. horrida ssp. perotensis (notice the teeth in the photo in our Godfather's book under A. obscura). However, my A. horrida ssp. perotensis are consistently grey and not green! And no center stripe!! So maybe we are back to ... ?!

The other two are easier:

#2) A. xylonacantha

#3) A. avellanidens

[agavegreg]

Brian Kemble posted some photos of Agave horrida ssp. perotensis. You can find that thread under the Agavaceae, and check out the pics.