Agave id

[RAFAMONTOSA]

Hi, can you help me identify this Agave?

Is from 'Pinya de Rosa'. A "tropical" garden from Girona, Spain.







thank's

[Matt Maggio]

Most likely A. hiemiflora

[agavegreg]

Are the leaves smooth or do they feel rough to the touch on one or both surfaces?

[RAFAMONTOSA]

Thank you matt.

Agavegreg, i don't know. I didn't touch the plant, but i think that it was smooth. The next time that i go, i will check it. What sp you think that is it? thank's.

[Paul S]

What a strange thing. Those exact images were posted on a forum called Gardening on The Edge (now removed, I just checked) - but purportedly pictures taken in a garden in Mexico by a Mexican guy named Leo, who is also a member here.

I don't get it.

[RAFAMONTOSA]

Hi Paul, are you sure?
These images was taken in Pinya de Rosa Blanes (Girona) Spain. I did the photos!!

The guy, Could be Leo from Sevilla (Spain)?

[Nick PGP]

Originally Posted by Paul S

What a strange thing. Those exact images were posted on a forum called Gardening on The Edge (now removed, I just checked) - but purportedly pictures taken in a garden in Mexico by a Mexican guy named Leo, who is also a member here.

I don't get it.

Errr...yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. Mighty curious me thinks.

[leomx]

"Guilty as charge"........

Paul, you got it wrong. I didn´t clarify about the pics, though.

Rafa was asking that agave id in another plant forum and I tried to help him asking about them on GOTE, though it was a dead end. I thought the pictures were from his yard (rafa also didn´t clarify that in his original message) and now I know they´re not his. I didn´t notified rafa about asking agave id in other plant forums since figure it out they´re not so easy to id (it´s obvious nobody could id it there also)... etc. hope you get my point.

hope it´s all crystal clear now.

leomx (mx = méxico).

cheers.

[Paul S]

I see.


(said the blind man)

I always get extremely suspicious of anomalies like this on the internet - it is plagued by trolls and people who seem intent on causing trouble for it's own sake. In all innocence this time but, as someone once said, just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you

My trip is getting closer, Leo... end of February...

[RAFAMONTOSA]

Hi Paul,
You can view more pictures ... http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...albumview=grid

or in my blog ...
http://www.jardinesdecactus.blogspot.com/

[rpw]

So is it for sure Agave heimiflora?
And what are the taxonomic clues here?
Just trying to learn something....
Peyton

[RAFAMONTOSA]

Leomx, thanks for the clarifycation..

[leomx]

that´s right Paul, like we say "no hagas cosas buenas que parezcan malas".

really nice Pinya de rosa down there in Girona. hope had better luck with aloes. just saw your noid agave in another plant forum!!!.... mmm, ok, it´s yourself this time.

another trip, Paul, again!? you got mail.

leomx (still not so troll).

[Paul S]

Here is a picture I took of Agave hiemiflora just north of San Cristobal de las Casas in Chiapas - it does show a resemblance, for sure, though the rosette is a lot fuller on this plant. This population is the only time I have seen this - it isn't seen in the UK and I haven't seen it in a collection 'abroad' - so I have no idea as to whether this is representative of the type or not.

[agavegreg]

I'm not that familiar with the group Hiemiflorae, so can only speculate. Looking in Gentry though, the leaf margins of A. hiemiflora appear to be more crenate while those of A. pachycentra are straighter. Granted, that's just from a couple of pictures and a drawing. The other note is that leaves of A. heimiflora are smooth while those of A. pachycentra are rough. Hence the reason for my earlier post on the leaf surface texture.

[RAFAMONTOSA]

Originally Posted by agavegreg

The other note is that leaves of A. heimiflora are smooth while those of A. pachycentra are rough. Hence the reason for my earlier post on the leaf surface texture.

I'll have to check it!!


Paul S,
have some resemblance. that you can also change the way in culture and habitat

Tienen alguna semejanza. También pueden cambiar algo de forma en cultivo y en hábitat.

Gracias a los dos!! thank's

[RAFAMONTOSA]

hi, Could be an Agave Pygmae? (the 1st pictures).


Paul S

this picture is more like your hiemiflora!!
What you think?




was taken from 'Pinya de Rosa' too.

[Paul S]

Could be - once the inflorescence develops it might be more possible to tell.

[RAFAMONTOSA]

Thank you Paul,
When i say Pygmae, i refer to the first id picture. i don't explained well. I've edited the post.

[RAFAMONTOSA]

Originally Posted by agavegreg

Are the leaves smooth or do they feel rough to the touch on one or both surfaces?

I returned to the garden and found that the surface is smooth and the lower face is rough.



what do you thing?