...and adding to this it is just like a diamond: forever

[Constantino]

Dazzling is to say the least here, take a look.
Species! No Hybrid!
So brand new found it is unnamed.
Brazilian wilderness holds many more new Species.
Adding to its almost unlimited beauty it is a perenial plant,
just like diamonds ... and still adding to this it gets better and better with age. Years just add to its perfection.
Take a look and see by you own eyes:

[Tim Harvey]

Almost as nice as a Dudleya!

[Constantino]

Hi Mark. I have no experience with these fantastic Northern Plants. Show us some pictures of your plants and let us decide. An image is more convincent than just plain words, ok? I saw some extremely beautiful Dudleyas but only in pics. There must be a forum on them, no? Even so I wanna see some as or even more spectacular than the plant I showed.
Do they sprout from a loosen leaf? Do they guard any germinative cells with the loosen leaves? Some are whitish, aren´t they? Is there any new one and unmamed? When was the last Dudleya description? Are they finished or do they need any bettering? Are they monocarpic? If so how is their life cycle?
Do not forget to show us, ok?
Thanks for looking here.

[Tim Harvey]

Who is this Mark chap you keep referring to?

Lots of Dudleya pictures here:

http://images.google.com/images?q=du...ed=0CBIQsAQwAA

Some taxonomic history here:

http://www.ipni.org/ipni/advPlantNam...ge=plantsearch

Dudleya is still clearly an evolving genus, and there are still species being discovered/described.

I like them at least as much as Dyckia - no thorns, either!

T

[Constantino]

Thanks a lot but a such spectacular plant almost celestial and paradisiac how come you didin´t show any of your own?

We wanna see your progress on them.
Which one you found in wilderness?
Are you following any being described?
Do you make hybrids or do you rather have pure strain?
Are all native to the land of Milk and Honey or is there some from the Pancho Villa land too?
How long does it take to have an adult form a seedling?
How large they grow?
Are they bromeliads to be present here?

You did not answered: do they grow from loosen leaves like my grandmma did with her succulents on her sunny windowsill?

Beautiful plants indeed, or at least some amid them. But baby, it indicates it is just a matter of ...of baby you just can´t compare them.
After all, what about just stopping here avoiding being too childish and foolish?
You like Dudleya? Great! Great plants! Go on. I do like one or two too.
And so?
I just sorry the fact you did not have such marvels to show us all the reason of your alluring and comparing.

Do not be modest show yourself, your work, work or the result of you passionate work and treasured Dydleya plants of yours.

We all would be most pleased. The Internet we can always Google ourselves, don´t we?

Sell your fish baby or this is all seem just ...just envy and it is not, is it?

Show off your fish baby.
I may see if the eye shines revealing its freshness:



I wanna open the opercule to see the gills to attest the freshness of your fish:




...let me see the shinning scales of it, are they loose?




Let me touch it to test the firmness of your fish...




...maybe your fish is too long out of water it is stinking a bit. I would like it alive shinning live cause I do not feed on fish and I maybe would find a place for it in my pond...




...I wanna see your fish jumping high in my pond on a Spring day.
Sell it to me, please, do it.
Just the fish of yours, ok?
It must be YOUR fish!




Do not be shy, I wanna buy it...




Your fish doesn´t bite in case it is alive, do it?




Is it fresh or a salt water one?
Smuggled from Amazon or just taken from a Coral in Central America?
You do breed it yourself, don´t you?
This fish is from your own pond, isn´t it?
You do not pick it from any´s pond did you?



It must be at least a dazzling first class Japanese koi like, an only one in the world or at least that would be your feeling when selling your fish. Be proud of it and feel at easy proving the reason for your alluring. Do not go shy here.



...my pond is a roomy one but your fish must be healthy even if alive.
I do dot wanna waste my living brine shrimp on any.

[The Ghost of Howard Gentry]

Show off your Fish? WTF? You lost me... Just the plant facts would be a lot easier to understand and to the point.....

Your photo's are great, but having to sort through all the talking in poems and riddles about fish analogies and such is just too much for me. I am more confused after I read these posts than before. .

[Tim Harvey]

Discussion of Dudleya wouldn't be appropriate in this forum. Since I grow neither Dudleya nor Dyckia there aren't going to be any photos - well, I grow one Dudleya, and there are several species growing wild at the end of my street. My point is that since I like neither, they are equally attractive.

I looked at some Dyckia yesterday to try and see what all the fuss was about. I couldn't.

T

[Bancherd]

As they say:

"to each his own"

or

"whatever floats your boat"

etc.

[Constantino]

You are right my dear just a picture of a Dazziling Dyckia is enough but ..but those brief coments turned all a bit laughble and fit well in that answer, didn´t them?

Thinking is as good as chicken soup: harms nobody.

The concern, the main one here maybe is not the boat ´cause she sails fine but the safe port to get in. A boat with no harbour is a useless one and then any port does good.

Who brought that Dudleya here? Pardon me !
This Dude hasn´t one single Dudleya what an experience! What a conoseur!
What a reasonable conclusion!
Maybe Dudleya dude, this Dudleya is just like white chicken on a poultry and once you saw one you saw every one in there.
I guess no. Some Dudleya are dazzling plants. But of course Dazzling plants are not at the end of any street.

Dazzling plants are at the end of rainbows only!

Observe the intention on the awnswer to my thread since the very first posting and the rudeness of this dude right from the begining. All indicates, jealous triggered by my posting and come on something I knoe deeply well.
I deal wit Dychias for almost 35 years and they still allure me.
This guy even does not know the plant he so flamboyantly seemed to love but he does not even consider as good enough to keep and get to know. Knowing baby, means not seeing only.

Dude, if you trust so much on pictures alone as your knowing seem to be based on pictures...it is kind of weir,odd and picturesc, isn´t it? My posts on Dyckias may have have triggered some king of... low feeling, awakened something wicked or mean and terrible down inside that dude soul.

It is all fun!
Just plants!
Beter than plants are the good dudes with them.

"The worst blindness it the one of those who see."

Tim,my dearest it all seems you do not know neither plants here. This is the same as say: you do not know what you are talking about.
And if those plants growing at the end of your street were a tenth as gourgeous as you say they would not be there.

There is a well known saying here that reminds of those plants at the end of your street: Ripe oranges by the street: they are over ripe and rot or there are bees on that tree.

But and even so let us all know your plant or any Ducleya. Just to give us a hint,a kind of a clue, got it?
Let us all see your only one and magnificent Dydleya, it must be the most fantastic one as you do not care for those at the end ot your street.
Show us your only one, do not be shy baby. Show your..your Dudleya.
What Dudleya it must be!Twisted and contorted golden leaves?
Is it on a windowsill?
Does it grow from a loosen leaf?
Be nothing modest, go on. Show us.

As of coursely this is not a case of genuine ressentment, envy and unpoliteness so let us the poor dudes come to our own conclusions, ok?
Show us the most magnificent one you have, go on.
Do not be shy nor modest,please.

While you search for something outrageous gorgeous, see this
uggly horrifying babies most of you never set eyes on:

In Portuguese we say: "Matar a cobra e mostrar o cacete."
Goes into english something like this: I killed the snake and I showed the stick! I did and proved it.

But after all I invite you to laugh out loudly ´cause life is for so.
Wish you had a chance to understand and keep and search and research on the things you enjoy the most. That is an honor and the joy of life.
Blessing is deal with something you like the most.
Construct knowledge!
Open your own way through darkness.
Show the world the result of your dedication.
Make you drool!
Watch out baby or you are going to drown in your own drooling.
I am well assured of what I say and show baby, I am no fool.
..or at least not as much as you wished I should be.
These plants are absolutly and outrageously fantastic!
..and adding to this...they are forever.
Look and see...see and drool my darling.
What bothers you so much?
My knowing?
My way of showing what you do not knew and continue so?
The dazzling beatuful plants you won´t never have?
What? What triggers that on you?

Do not worry this is just too Human, this kind of feeling..try to get rid of those small ones and get into the world of the good AND KINDNESS.
Cheers.

Come on. gimme you hand let us get to the end of the rainbow now, come with me...I will guide you...it is an honor. Be my guest:

WELCOME TO THE END OF THE RAINBOW!

[William Ross]

Please stop the poetry. It isn't good and lends NOTHING to the understanding of the discussion of plants. Please stop.

[Lance Carbuncle]

What he said.... The photos are spectacular, but when I read your poetry dribble I have the uncontrollable urge to stick a Dyckia spine in my eye!

[Constantino]

So do not dispair as you can always get back and read it over again. That is not so complicated just not usual and all in all this is a classic case of THE GRAPES ARE NOT READY YET.

Remember Aesops´s tale: THE FOX AND THE GRAPES:

"...on a Summer day some fox found juicy bunches of grapes hanging form a wine...
It was very hot and the fox was thirsting for someting so fresh and juicy.
But the vine from which the grapes hanged was too high.
The smart fox decided to jump and so the fox tried and tried exaustively
with no sucess nor avail.
As he could not reach the delicious looking grapes he so concluded: Ah, these grapes are sour ...or not ripe yet and left with his noose in the air, hotter and even thirstier than before."

All here (and there) leads to the conclusion of grapes being sour or not ripe yet. A serious case of grapes being too sour and unripe.



My dear, got it clearer now or should I draw?
Being a hint poetic indeed and thanks.

[William Ross]

Oh, I get it. So what you're saying
Is......
Though theTREE Is Very Tall,
You Can Still Break A Window
With A Sledge-Hammer.
------------------------------------------
I'm afraid, my dear, the vine
is surely twisted and water
cut-off. Shrivelled grapes have been forced too quickly and
to small and because such,
the flavor has been dulled, my dear, and unless stirred
with copious amounts of sugar from the ground beets in Russia
or cane from India
the flavor is staining of the tongue
and leaves a flavor not unlike
a large wet thing that is not sweet.

No more fables or poems please.
It has nothing to do with plants.
It isn't working for you.
Please....
No more.
No!